Kids, do not try this at home. Don't believe a word of it- remember, LOC is a fiction project. Albeit an extremely unproductive one.

23:44 <@ejp> I'm told he changes pitch when I invoke Voice, but I don't think it's a physical thing
23:44 <@solios> the physical change is a reflection.
23:44 * solios has several different voices.
23:44 <@solios> it's like a swiss army knife.
23:45 <@solios> the demon inducer sounds like David Warner. o_o
23:45 <@ejp> I just have two. me, and the once that makes people look kinda consipated and wanted to be Elsewhere.
23:45 <@solios> and I can NOT reproduce it. :|
23:45 <@solios> heeeheee
23:45 <@ejp> also, spelling.
23:45 <@solios> invoking++
23:46 <@solios> * solios ./$thing
23:46 <@solios> < solios> PREPARE FOR MIND CONTROL
23:46 <@solios> < $thing> sweet.
23:46 <@solios> * $thing scampers off.
23:46 <@solios> then people move.
23:46 <@solios> or fall off the grid.
23:46 <@solios> or get in car accidents.
23:46 <@ejp> huh
23:46 <@solios> or overdose.
23:47 <@solios> or get really fucking sick with Teh Plague, etc.
23:47 * ejp tends to view things in terms of raw energy
23:47 <@solios> you can never get specific.
23:47 <@solios> hermetics is wondrously specifically vague.
23:47 <@ejp> baseball bats, on the other hand...
23:48 <@solios> there's the process, which is really a filter - you do a bit at the start called the Oath of Operations which directs the force pulled down or projected, and that's your "control".
23:48 <@solios> couple the right o3 to the right hermetics and you can axe an asshole without ever being direct.
23:48 <@ejp> o_O
23:48 <@solios> the problem with nuking by name is you're being Pointed.
23:48 <@ejp> sounds bloody complicated.
23:48 <@solios> so the fallout is Worse.
23:48 <@solios> not really.
23:49 <@solios> the procedure is detailed in Book Four.
23:49 <@ejp> complicated compared to how I do things.
23:50 <@solios> Seal the area, drop a clean bomb, prep the launch pad, State Your Purpose, Launch The Fucking Air Strike, dust off the pad, and be sure to halt the system from the command line instead of the breaker.
23:50 <@solios> wash, rinse, repeat.
23:50 <@solios> oh, don't get me wrong.
23:50 <@solios> brute force willpower is about sixty billion times more effective.
23:51 <@ejp> so why bother with all the BS?
23:51 <@solios> this does the same thing, but it covers more bases as well as your ass.
23:51 <@ejp> ass covering is what pants are for.
23:51 <@solios> part of procedure is to take notes.
23:51 <@solios> time, number of reps, log the o3, etc.
23:51 <@ejp> heh
23:51 <@solios> and the rituals are Specific.
23:52 <@solios> so it's obvious from logs what you're pulling in.
23:52 <@solios> it is, technicaly speaking, Scientific.
23:52 <@ejp> science is magic broken down so the little people can grasp it.
23:52 <@ejp> fuck the little people.
23:52 <@solios> I use Brute Force Willpower for lots of things, but the hermetics are really good at covering a broader range of things I'm traditionally blind to.
23:53 <@solios> look at it this way.
23:53 <@solios> hermetics is a cookbook.
23:53 <@solios> you don't need a cookbook to make a sammich.
23:53 <@solios> :)
23:53 <@ejp> soem people do. :(
23:53 <@solios> bake a souffle, you want a recipe.
23:53 <@solios> see?
23:53 <@solios> sometimes you want a souffle.
23:53 <@solios> sometimes a sammich hits the spot.
23:53 <@solios> follow?
23:53 <@ejp> yes
23:53 <@solios> <3
23:54 <@ejp> my point is roughly: if you need a racipe to make a sammich, perhaps you ought not to be IN THE FUCKING KITCHEN.
23:54 <@solios> true that.
23:54 <@ejp> though I agree that for more complex workings some thought should be given.
23:55 <@solios> and I'm sayin' I can whip out a sammich, but when I'm hungry for something a little more complicated, I grab the recipe and follow instructions.
23:55 <@ejp> keeping the analogy, I tend to make lots and lots of little finger sammichs constantly.
23:55 <@solios> it's ultimately an orderly procedure, like surgery. Get the tools, clean and sterilize, anesthatize, get all unnecessary personnel out of the theater, open up, snip snip, sew it up, wheel it out.
23:55 <@solios> yar
23:56 <@solios> with the occasional multi-meat triple-decker.
23:56 <@ejp> I'd found that constant corrections you can avoid the multi-meat.
23:57 <@solios> so you favor the TEN THOUSAND FINGER POKEY of Fist Of The North Star?
23:57 <@ejp> which is good. when I try to do Big Shit either I get a wicked headache, or Bad Things happen.
23:58 <@solios> also, yes. constant nudges will get you resuls- big hermetics have a tendency to raise you up over the plane of the ecliptic, so the second you cease with the upkeep, grabity yanks you right back down and shit goes Wrong.
23:58 <@solios> big push, big push BACK.
23:58 <@solios> along the lines of get laid / lose job.
23:58 <@ejp> yup
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00:00 <@ejp> I'd rather expend a X energy every day tweaking things and managing that expend X*900 in one whack that might be sideways
00:00 <@solios> _quantum_ physics, but still physics. :)
00:00 <@solios> :o
00:00 <@solios> heh.
00:00 <@solios> I mix it up.
00:00 <@solios> like I said, the hermetics covers the kind of stuff I'm liable to forget about otherwise.
00:00 <@ejp> see, I started at the quantim physics side of things
00:01 <@solios> so'd a friend of mine.
00:01 <@solios> he went from zero to awesome with the hermetics, but I still don't think he can See.
00:01 <@ejp> :<
00:02 <@ejp> blind painters scare me. :|
00:02 <@solios> 's the funny bit about hermetics- you can do Stuff and eventually begin to Influence... but it's like learning english from a textbook when you're twenty.
00:02 <@solios> as opposed to being born and raised with it.
00:03 <@solios> yes. most of the occultists I know have never done !hermetics.
00:03 <@solios> :|
00:03 <@ejp> that's so sad.
00:03 <@solios> not really.
00:03 <@solios> their superiority complex is the sad part.
00:03 <@ejp> point
00:04 <@solios> you get that from all scenesters.
00:04 <@ejp> it'd be fun to meet people that some time. only person I've ever met that had Power was like me. not trained.
00:05 <@solios> heh.
00:05 <@solios> well, xeno's shamanic/wild, like yourself.
00:05 <@solios> I grew up that way, then went hermetic sort of as a fluke.
00:05 <@solios> stuck around 'cuz the hermetics knew how to get drugs that were really neat.
00:05 <@solios> stopped with that bullshit but keep up with what works.
00:06 <@solios> it's a toolbox.
00:06 <@ejp> I just have a hammer.
00:06 <@ejp> it's a damn fine hammer though.
00:06 <@solios> most of the time, I don't need more than a pocket knife. But it's good to have the jackhammer when it's needed.
00:08 <@solios> funny thing is, even after knowing all this, some people are all "so why aren't you super rich? why don't you have a car and a harem and all that other shit?"
00:08 <@ejp> o_o
00:08 <@solios> they fail to realize that a magical hammer is a magical hammer.
00:08 <@solios> it is not, nor will it ever be, a magical screwdriver.
00:08 <@ejp> because to get that you'd have to loose your peener or something
00:09 <@ejp> s/oo/o/
00:09 <@solios> more like "a hamster isn't a dog."
00:09 <@solios> don't expect it to bark.
00:10 <@ejp> neither is a hamster a naked molerat
00:10 <@solios> true that.
00:10 <@solios> by extension, chemistry still can't turn lead into gold.
00:11 <@ejp> besides. why dick with things you don't *need* to?
00:11 <@solios> I never grokked that. You can't draw pictures with gold. :|
00:11 <@solios> :D
00:11 <@solios> ejp++
00:11 <@solios> one would argue that you don't need to dick at ALL.
00:11 <@ejp> in a perfectly balenced system, no.
00:11 <@solios> eg, if you're balanced and harmonized and your shui is fenged and all that shit, then Life Is Good, etc.
00:12 <@solios> I hit that point, briefly.
00:12 <@ejp> external forces yo.
00:12 <@solios> I don't know what I need to do to get back to it. :|
00:12 <@ejp> I'm getting there.
00:13 <@ejp> have to listen very very closely for the little voice that says "go that way->" when you come to a fork in the road.
00:13 <@solios> I'm thinking that my relationship with the local hermetics needs to change.
00:13 <@ejp> cattleprods?
00:13 <@solios> Since the little voice has been saying "GET THE FUCK OUT" for awhile, but I've never had a compelling reason to.
00:14 <@ejp> dude.
00:14 <@solios> see?
00:14 <@ejp> THE LITTLE VOICE IS NEVER WRONG
00:14 <@solios> I know.
00:14 <@solios> :|
00:14 <@ejp> HEED THE VOICE.
00:14 <@ejp> (just not if they tell you to kill small animals or set fires)
00:14 <@solios> wrong voice.
00:14 <@solios> The Little Voice is more of a Pull.
00:14 <@ejp> voice good, voices bad.
00:14 <@ejp> yes
00:15 <@solios> yeah.
00:15 <@ejp> a feeling.
00:15 <@solios> I'm in an evolutionary dead end here.
00:15 <@solios> I've been here seven years.
00:15 <@solios> Waiting for a mission.
00:15 <@solios> Getting softer.
00:15 * solios ponders watching Apocalypse Now.
00:16 <@solios> the only thing left in this town is excuses.